I want my hackintosh netbook more than ever after ipad news

[ikeny]

The ipad announcement today confirms that it will essentially be just a glorified iPhone. Very disappointing. As much as it looks sexy, fun and affordable, it is still just a toy. I wouldn't travel with it alone without a laptop or my beloved hackintoshed netbook.

Things that I won't be able to do while I travel on an iPad:
- download any apps from the internet and run it when I need to
- remote access to control my main computer at home to download any documents that I need
- no video skype
- no flash
- give Microsoft PowerPoint presentations (unless there's an app for that in the future)

Being a big Apple fan, I want to buy one now if Apple sells it. But I can't help but thinking what I am going to do with my iPhone when I have an iPad, and vice versa (aside from making phone calls, which apparently is questionable itself with AT&T).

[SilverZero]

The iPad was a monumental disappointment, and that's not even considering the hype. It's ugly, it lacks multi-tasking, it's 4:3 instead of widescreen, etc. It's not even a glorified iPhone, just a bigger one. With no camera.

[jlbrown23]

Although I very much share your disappointment over the initial release of the iPad, after reflecting on it a bit I realized that most of the real problems with it were software problems. So they can be fixed with future OS releases. I really wish they didn't decide to go with the iPhone OS, but at this point I think the one crazy, ridiculous thing is the lack of multitasking. It's like Jobs has been pining for the days of System 6. But like I said, much like cut and past on the iPhone, they can just release an update that gives you multitasking.

You mention no remote control of your home computer - this actually isn't true. I VPN from my iPhone to my home computer all of the time(in fact I dl stuff to a network drive I can access from my iPhone). This was one of the things I thought might actually be really sweet on the iPod - on a good connection, the VPN of my MacBook is going to look exactly like what I WANTED the iPod to be - SL on a tablet.

To me the stuff that can't be fixed is the hardware gaps. The lack of iSight is the biggest omission. This thing looks like it was made to be a Skype/iChat device - although can you imagine what AT&T would be like with 3G Skype video traffic? The lack of ANY sort of output port is also glaring. Great, I can MAKE slides with iWork, but how do I output them to a projector? And I still for the life of me can't figure out why Apple is so uptight about wireless syncing & file transfer. I REALLY still have to hook this thing to my computer with a USB chord?

The thing that give me hope is that this same sort of thing happened with the original iPhone. No apps, no 3G, no cut and paste, etc. So maybe Apple will roll out hardware changes with 2nd or 3rd generation devices, and a lot of the other problems could be new OS versions. In other words it looks to me like the smart thing to do is what the smart thing ALWAYS is to do with new technology - wait for the 2nd generation.

[haraldrt]

Why is everybody crying before the iPad has even reached the market. The iPhone OS 3.2 ( the One specialy made for the ipad) has some new features (Register as a developer and then read the docs).
One very big news is filesharing. according to the development docs the new os gives applications the ability to share files between apps and the desktop. Ok this works only over usb, but who wants to sync several gigabytes (videos, applications,etc) wireless?
There is an api for supporting a secondary screen. ( By the way there is an dock to component video adapter and one for composite/s-video availabe for the iPhone so why shouldn't this be possible for the iPad for presentations)
Looking at the camera adapter shown on the apple website, i think the usage of usb devices will be possible in some ways.

i think keynote will handle powerpoint presentations. As far as i remember keynote on the mac can read powerpoint. The export to powerpoint is not as good as it should be, but this is not the problem for using the ipad in presentations.

One major market for the iPad seems to be ebooks. When i compare the kindle dx (9.7" display, $489) to the iPad i'll get a lot more out of the iPad.
Comparing to my S10, i would prefer the iPad for reading
I won't use the iPad as an musicplayer. It's to big, but as a video device it looks really nice.

Everybody was expecting a tablet-mac, why?

Imagine drawing on the iPad, or planing your new loft/house/... by symply pushing everything around at the tip of your fingers.

A windows based tablet uses windows programms. Windows Programms are much more expensive than apps for the iPhone.
Windows Programms use a Gui written for mouse and keyboard usage. All this makes the iPad a really cool device for the (newly written)
applications on multitouch devices.

So stop complaining after only seeing a (first) presentation of the device.
Just wait for the iPad and its Applications. Then we can discuss what is possible and what is not.

Just my thoughts guys
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Harald

[SilverZero]

Why is everybody crying before the iPad has even reached the market.

[. . .]

So stop complaining after only seeing a (first) presentation of the device.
Just wait for the iPad and its Applications. Then we can discuss what is possible and what is not.

I think people (or maybe I can only speak for myself) are complaining about hardware issues as well as some very glaring software shortcomings. Lack of standard ports (especially USB and HDMI), 4:3 screen resolution (I'm getting tired of black bars around all my video), serious multitasking insufficiency, no front-facing camera for video chatting, and a price point that is ostensibly set to compete with the Kindle DX, except you can't get content on the go unless you buy the more expensive wifi version and pay for a data plan.

And let's not forget that Windows-based systems are also very comfortable with open-source software, while Apple has really walled off that community by basing the whole iPad OS on their Apps store.

[FradicalOne]

So .. in light of the iPad announcement I would like to see Mac OS running on some new Netbooks. For example the Lenovo S10-3 Convertible has a touch sensitive capacitive screen. This would be a nice machine running OSX. This version of the S10 uses the Intel GMA 3150 vs GMA 950 used in the current S10's that run Mac OS.

So I am hoping there is some/new interest in supporting this machine via this forum. I am ready to donate!

[phattbam]

the iPad is a supersized iPod Touch

[haraldrt]

These are exactly the comments i expected here. Everybody is kind of blindfolded. the iPad is not a notebook, it's not even a netbook. It should never be a smartphone. Apple tried to create a new class of devices. When the first nettbooks arrived, everybody sang the same song, too small not enough power, useless for me, screen to small for an notebook, (with 3G: to big for a smartphone) ...
But a new kind of devices has been established in the market by ASUS.

The iPad will bring 3rd Party hardware. why not go for a keyboard/casing mixture, connecting to the dock? Video out (HDMI?) shouldn't be a problem, even the iPhone has adapters for this.
The APIs for interfacing with external devices by dock or bluetooth are in place, developers must use them before you can blame the device-manufacturer.

On the OS side: Apple does not allow backgrounding. This is not the same as the device is incapable of it. Using multiple Applications at the same time on this kind of device is stupid. Applications can hold their state by other means (persistence layer???) on exit and restart at the same point the user has left using similar methods a webpage rembers you and your setting everytime you login. A Programmer has to adapt to the device and the usage of Programms on it - not the device has to adapt to every programming and gui style. And no iPhone OS is not like OS6 . iPhone OS supports threads, so backgrounding for your application task (as long as your app runs) is possible.

Or do you want to use the iPad for downloading, encoding, etc in background?
I play a game, i watch a video, i read a book. But i do not read and play at the same time. I can put the book aside to watch a video or i can stop playing to read a book.

I have a background in several UNIX-like operating systems, have used and disliked windows for 18 Years now ( and yes i am trained in usage and administration of windows,linux and aix ) but i prefere OS X for my personal usage. The same goes for smartphone. i have owned and used Symbian (from Nokia) and Windows Mobile 5 and 6 Phones, but the iPhone is a whole new experience in usability, just because it is not a windows with its menu driven interfaces put on a small screen. And this is the advantage i see for the iPad as well: a new Userinterface for a new device.

In my experience OpenSource is very good for personal use on windows there are thousands of very good tools around, but legally it's a pain in the ass if you try to sell something. It's not impossible put it is very complicated to do this the "right" way. So why don't you use the SDK and your "DEBUGING Device" to put your own opensource apps on your iPad/iPone from source. It is possible, but you have to know how to compile ( just like in the early days of linux ) and you have to be a registered Developer.

The hardcore hackers can wait until it's jailbroken to enable backgrounding or puting open source on it.

I think some here are dissapointed, they can't hackintosh the iPad OS to a tablet-netbook because it is not a x86 architecture. Apple has not tried to get at the netbook market, they try something different.

[pseudo]

Would you really want to read a book on a device such as this? I am an avid reader and also a gadget fan. I got an eBook reader for Christmas (the Sony PRS-505) and am yet to be convinced. It is brilliant that I can carry so many books around in such a small package (good for commuting on the tube) as I get antsy if I finish my book and haven't got another to start straight away. The lack of a backlight and the high contrast are also a plus, but it doesn't beat the tactility of the real thing or the ability to flick through with ease.

Now, these things will come to this new technology, but I really disagree with the claim that the iPad will revolutionise reading. One cannot read a book from a backlit LCD screen for any more than a short period of time without getting tired or sore eyes.

This product is a step in the right direction for small, personal media, internet devices, but is far from revolutionary. The hardware seems incredibly basic for such a "cutting edge" device (classic apple).

In my opinion, products that incorporate tablet functionality with a decent hardware keyboard will be the ones to win this battle as they replace netbooks leaving computing power to desktops and the cloud, and leave portability to smartphones.

There, I said it in black and white... now let's ;et time prove me wrong eh?!

[phattbam]

I'm not knocking on the iPad 100% yet... It's got some stuff to prove first. I know it's only the first rendition. just wait for the revisions to come out and I'm sure many of us will see it differently. Look at the first iPhone.